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This page has been produced for those sailing in waters around NW Europe and who wish to know the latest weather occurring rather than a forecast. Noting the great improvements in weather prediction over recent years and the way in which National Weather Service NWP models use all available data - see the NWP page on use of data - it is debatable just how much use can be made by a sailor of such data.
Some "reports from coastal stations" are included with the BBC Shipping Forecast on Radio 4 LW at 0048 and 0535 LT. Because of pressures on time available in the BBC schedules and the importance given to the shipping forecasts over and above the actuals, it is very unlikely that the BBC will give more air time for this purpose during the daytime.
When at sea, the Coast Guard can always be called up on marine VHF. However, at present, they seem to have very little actual data immediately available to them. They may have reports from other vessels at sea. Otherwise, they may only know what is happening in their immediate locality.
So, how can we find out what the wind is at present?
After the late night and early morning shipping forecast on Radio 4 LW, 198 kHz, there are reports from Tiree, Stornoway, Lerwick, Fife Ness, Bridlington, Sandettie LV, Greenwich LV, Jersey Airport, Channel LV, Scilly, Valentia, Ronaldsway and Malin Head. Where these are automatic stations this is stated. After the late night forecast there is a second list of reports, some repeat the earlier list. Others are additions.
This is not normally available when at sea but easily accessible in harbour or at anchor using a mobile phone GPRS connection to a laptop PC. This gives the most comprehensive set of data available. Useful sites around the British Isles include -
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There is still a MarineCall Current Weather and Observations service although this was withdrawn from the MarineCall portfolio in 2005, It is listed on the RYA MarineCall card for 2005. Numbers are in the form 09064 700 6XX A similar set of numbers starting 09068 226 4XX can be found in the MarineCall literature and Directory Cards for 2003. These services are no longer actively promoted by MarineCall due to low levels of interest.
The numbers to call are shown below.
MarineCall Inshore Sailing Area |
Telephone Number | RYA MarineCall Name | Telephone Number |
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Cape Wrath to Rattray Head |
09068 226 451 | Scotland North |
09064 700 621 |
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Rattray Head to Berwick |
09068 226 452 | Scotland East |
09064 700 622 |
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Berwick to Whitby |
09068 226 453 | North East |
09064 700 623 |
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Whitby to The Wash |
09068 226 454 | East |
09064 700 623 |
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The Wash to North Foreland |
09068 226 455 | Anglia | 09064 700 625 |
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North Foreland to Selsey Bill |
09068 226 456 | Channel East | 09064 700 626 |
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Selsey Bill to Lyme Regis |
09068 226 457 | Mid Channel | 09064 700 627 |
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Lyme Regis to Hartland Point |
09068 226 458 | South West | 09064 700 628 |
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Hartland Point to St. David's Head |
09068 226 459 | Bristol | 09064 700 629 |
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St. David's Head to Colwyn Bay |
09068 226 460 | Wales | 09064 700 630 |
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Colwyn Bay to Mull of Galloway |
09068 226 461 | North West | 09064 700 631 |
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Mull of Galloway to Mull of Kintyre |
09068 226 462 | Clyde | 09064 700 632 |
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Mull of Kintyre to Ardnamurchan |
09068 226 463 | Caledonia | 09064 700 633 |
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Ardnamurchan to Cape Wrath |
09068 226 464 | Minch | 09064 700 634 |
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Lough Foyle to Carlingford Lough |
09068 226 465 | N Ireland | 09064 700 465 |
The MarineCall SMS contains data for over 180 Coastal locations, For each, it gives
To use the service, simply create a text message in the form MC plus the name of the location using the list and send it to 83141.The reply will come back within a minute or so. Each message costs 25 p.
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values deduced by the Met Office data analysis scheme. For some information on that see the NWP Page. This all sounds very impressive and useful but many of the places are not very relevant to conditions at sea. For example, both Dart Marina and Darthaven are included. This raises three issues. First, how good are the wind data? In other words, how well can the Met Office deduce data at places where there are no real data? Secondly, how really site specific are the forecasts given the limitations of numerical modelling? No current operational NWP model is capable of prediction at such precise and specific locations. . Thirdly, how many of the SMS locations have any relevance to the sea in the near vicinity? Looking at the list, many are not. Although the data on the SMS are "virtual" actuals they can be quite useful indicators of current conditions as long as the user understands that they are, effectively, representative of conditions about 10 to 15 miles either side of the named coastal location. |
"Unofficial" Automatic Weather Stations eg CHIMET |
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| There are some automatic weather stations sites at strategic locations such as the Chichester Bar (CHIMET) and on the Bramble Bank, at the entrance to Southampton water. These stations report wind and sea state among other parameters. Just how useful these are to the leisure sailor is a matter of personal opinion. Clearly, it must be useful to the master of a large bulk carrier coming up the Solent to know what the wind is like over the Bramble Bank.. On a slow moving yacht two or three hours off the Chichester Bar, I would be looking at the tide tables and working out the state of tide over the bar |
for my ETA. In the even of a strong wind, I would be aiming to arrive with the most favourable tide/wind conditions. A knowledge of wave and wind some few hours off would not help very much. I would be well aware of the wind strength and direction. I would have heard the forecast. In such situations conditions will depend greatly on the time in the tidal cycle. Information of such sort may well not be a good indicator of future conditions even a short time ahead. Such data are no doubt interesting, but there is no substitute for good seamanship and careful planning. |
Summary |
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From the above, it can be seen that the Internet is the best access to the latest actual data when ashore, in harbour or within mobile phone range of the coast. Use of a mobile phone text service can give a good estimate of what winds and weather are like at many locations, but these are not, in any sense of the word, actual weather observations. They will give useful information but must be used with care. |
A resource that could, in principle be used for longer range transmission of actual observations is the NAVTEX 490 kHz service. At present, this only carries the Inshore waters texts. I do not know how much of the broadcast is taken up by this service, but there should be room for some actual reports appropriate to the three UK NAVTEX stations. |
© Frank Singleton, February 2006 , revised March 2008.